5 Big Questions: KIT MESSENGER


Is quitting on principle the right thing to do?

Is the UK education system fit for purpose? 

How fast is change?

In this week’s 5 Big Questions interview we talk to social entrepreneur, trainer and former head teacher KIT MESSENGER.



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5 Big Questions podcast. Kit Messenger on the education system, trying new ways and the power of resigningKnown for:

  • Co-director – Changing Chances
  • Former Headteacher – Manor Field Primary School
  • Teaching Fellow – University of Sussex (UK)

The 5 Big Questions:

Measuring change How do you measure the impact of what you do?

Ready for anything - future proofingHow should people/businesses be preparing for the future?

Skills, talent & opportunityHow do we build the workforce we need for that future?

Embedded innovationHow do you use creativity to solve problems?

Bold connections, collaborationHow do you collaborate?

Key quotes:

“A person can shift their thinking and then they can shift in terms of their skills and behaviour. Then they can start operating differently with a child, speaking to them differently, supporting them differently. But the impact for the child won’t be straight away, because they’ve got to embed. Neural pathways take time to build and strengthen.”

“Some people can work outside their principles for a long time and seem to survive, and some people can’t.”

“I had this naive belief that it could create this momentum and things might change.”

“When they know that you’re doing something because you really, truly love it and you’ve got their children’s best interests truly at heart, you get a different value system going through a community, going through an organisation.” 

“What kind of society, neighbourhoods, workplaces, do we really want in the end? If you look at it in terms of what you’re trying to shift, change and create in the end, it helps you to think through a much longer-term thought process on what the right skills would be and knowledge would be.” 

This episode was recorded in May 2022

Interviewer: Richard Freeman for always possible

Editor: CJ Thorpe-Tracey for Lo Fi Arts


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